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LastFirstborn

Number of posts: 2223 Age: 18 Location: Blashyrkh Registration date: 2009-04-08 Points: 3539
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:45 pm | |
| I do not. _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.)| Quote: | | [20:20:12] olias : even if he doesn't believe in christianity that doesnt mean he is right to leave you in such a compromised position |
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olias

Number of posts: 2044 Age: 19 Location: USA Registration date: 2009-07-10 Points: 2728
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:58 pm | |
| No suprise there. You seem to have established a pattern to embracing "opposite" opinions. _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.) | Quote: | [12:45:11] olias : Cazz  [12:45:28] olias : this place is gonna suck without you so I am just doing that one last time [12:45:31] olias : RIP |
| Quote: | | [22:14:32] Stender : dat sum guud weed dem tr00 arcan steele blak kvlt musick |
| Quote: | | [23:01:39] Stender : I have a huge black forest and triumphant mushroom castle that bieber is missing... |
| Hguols wrote: | Made boner disappear by thinking of Janet Reno
I AM TEH SEKS MAJIC MAN!
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LastFirstborn

Number of posts: 2223 Age: 18 Location: Blashyrkh Registration date: 2009-04-08 Points: 3539
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:05 pm | |
| No, I just happen to find not putting someone who is already as good as dead out of their misery more disturbing than euthanasia. |
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olias

Number of posts: 2044 Age: 19 Location: USA Registration date: 2009-07-10 Points: 2728
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:09 pm | |
| _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.) | Quote: | [12:45:11] olias : Cazz  [12:45:28] olias : this place is gonna suck without you so I am just doing that one last time [12:45:31] olias : RIP |
| Quote: | | [22:14:32] Stender : dat sum guud weed dem tr00 arcan steele blak kvlt musick |
| Quote: | | [23:01:39] Stender : I have a huge black forest and triumphant mushroom castle that bieber is missing... |
| Hguols wrote: | Made boner disappear by thinking of Janet Reno
I AM TEH SEKS MAJIC MAN!
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LastFirstborn

Number of posts: 2223 Age: 18 Location: Blashyrkh Registration date: 2009-04-08 Points: 3539
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:21 pm | |
| That question is too complicated and nuanced for me to provide a definite answer, but I will say that if I were dying and too far gone to be saved, I wouldn't mind being put out of my misery. |
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olias

Number of posts: 2044 Age: 19 Location: USA Registration date: 2009-07-10 Points: 2728
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:22 pm | |
| I doubt that. Death is not so inviting when you are on its doorstep. _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.) | Quote: | [12:45:11] olias : Cazz  [12:45:28] olias : this place is gonna suck without you so I am just doing that one last time [12:45:31] olias : RIP |
| Quote: | | [22:14:32] Stender : dat sum guud weed dem tr00 arcan steele blak kvlt musick |
| Quote: | | [23:01:39] Stender : I have a huge black forest and triumphant mushroom castle that bieber is missing... |
| Hguols wrote: | Made boner disappear by thinking of Janet Reno
I AM TEH SEKS MAJIC MAN!
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LastFirstborn

Number of posts: 2223 Age: 18 Location: Blashyrkh Registration date: 2009-04-08 Points: 3539
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:27 pm | |
| I don't know dude, I almost drowned when I was six and what was going on in my mind was something like, "so, I'm about to die at six years old... damn, that kind of sucks, but what can I do about it now..." _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.)| Quote: | | [20:20:12] olias : even if he doesn't believe in christianity that doesnt mean he is right to leave you in such a compromised position |
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olias

Number of posts: 2044 Age: 19 Location: USA Registration date: 2009-07-10 Points: 2728
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:35 pm | |
| But when one has the choice to live, one clings at the hope of life, no matter what. If a man cannot say what he wants, I am inclined to give him the more positive outcome of the choices. If you want to kill yourself, that is different. Obviously, I view it as morally wrong, but moral choices are to be made by individuals for themselves. However, it is not up to an individual to decide whether or not he can take the life another. There is a word for that: premeditated murder. _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.) | Quote: | [12:45:11] olias : Cazz  [12:45:28] olias : this place is gonna suck without you so I am just doing that one last time [12:45:31] olias : RIP |
| Quote: | | [22:14:32] Stender : dat sum guud weed dem tr00 arcan steele blak kvlt musick |
| Quote: | | [23:01:39] Stender : I have a huge black forest and triumphant mushroom castle that bieber is missing... |
| Hguols wrote: | Made boner disappear by thinking of Janet Reno
I AM TEH SEKS MAJIC MAN!
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Kamerad Ash

Number of posts: 2149 Age: 31 Location: Hell Registration date: 2008-12-12 Points: 3265
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:20 am | |
| Anyone who has experienced extreme chronic pain that does not cease... I'm sure would suppprt euthanasia.
It's really a matter of experience. Typically a young perosn who does not know yet the horrors of certain disease's, afflictions and pains.. will be more likely to not understand how such a thing as euthanasia can be a blessed and good thing.
I have had the unfortunate experience of this sort of pain and thereofre can fully understand.. that if such a thing were to persist and with no hope of recovery... death can be a needed release.
It is no gruesome thing.. the gruesome thing is suffering on such a level with no hope of release and escape. It is literally hell. I have experienced it.. to the point where I was praying for death.. luckily in that situation I finally got proper assitance and recovered from said pain.. but it gave me an understanding that those who have not experienced such things should consider themselves blessed not to possess.
What is better? People taking their own lives cause they can not bear the paoin anymore.. or society permitting a painless end of the suffering from a medical doctor when the pain gets to that level? Those are the two options for alot of people. |
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olias

Number of posts: 2044 Age: 19 Location: USA Registration date: 2009-07-10 Points: 2728
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:42 am | |
| But the problem is YOU HAVE NO DAMN RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR OTHERS!!!! _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.) | Quote: | [12:45:11] olias : Cazz  [12:45:28] olias : this place is gonna suck without you so I am just doing that one last time [12:45:31] olias : RIP |
| Quote: | | [22:14:32] Stender : dat sum guud weed dem tr00 arcan steele blak kvlt musick |
| Quote: | | [23:01:39] Stender : I have a huge black forest and triumphant mushroom castle that bieber is missing... |
| Hguols wrote: | Made boner disappear by thinking of Janet Reno
I AM TEH SEKS MAJIC MAN!
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Kamerad Ash

Number of posts: 2149 Age: 31 Location: Hell Registration date: 2008-12-12 Points: 3265
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:48 am | |
| That is not relevant. What we are talking about is when someone decides for themselves.
If you throw every extreme and fantastic imagination of some nazi euthanasia horrors into the subject you are not dealing with the subjet honestly at all.
It's been legal in Switzerland for a long time and there has yet to be any problems in that area, with it. The Swiss still have a longer life expectancy than Americans. _________________  |
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olias

Number of posts: 2044 Age: 19 Location: USA Registration date: 2009-07-10 Points: 2728
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:51 am | |
| It's funny you should mention the Nazi's seeing as how the first case of active euthanasia was that of Adolph Hitler. _________________ "People love to be selfish and materialistic and biological. It takes a strong person and a strong reason to reject those urges in favor of something better." – Cassidy Ringwald (R.I.P.) | Quote: | [12:45:11] olias : Cazz  [12:45:28] olias : this place is gonna suck without you so I am just doing that one last time [12:45:31] olias : RIP |
| Quote: | | [22:14:32] Stender : dat sum guud weed dem tr00 arcan steele blak kvlt musick |
| Quote: | | [23:01:39] Stender : I have a huge black forest and triumphant mushroom castle that bieber is missing... |
| Hguols wrote: | Made boner disappear by thinking of Janet Reno
I AM TEH SEKS MAJIC MAN!
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Kamerad Ash

Number of posts: 2149 Age: 31 Location: Hell Registration date: 2008-12-12 Points: 3265
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:15 pm | |
| Correct, we live in a world of good and evil.
But I don't know what " the first case of active euthansia" means. Mercy killing has been going since the beggining of time. It was very comon in ancient times, medieval times.. you name it.
Hitler's version was of course a sadistic killing spree.. based on his social Darwinism and anti-semitism.
The Ancient Greeks used to use dogs ( which were wild animals in those days) to finish off the wounded after a battle.. so that the wounded would not have to lay there for a week.. until they finally died.
IN medieval Times.. all throughout Europe it was common to have one or two men with swords finish off both friendly and enemy wounded on a battle field... for the same reason.
Here in america.. during the civil war.. there were soldiers who's job it was to also go around with a bayonet and finish off the mortally wounded on a battle field as well.
I can guarantee you it still goes on today with the mortally wounded and people who get bklown up but are still alove and won't die.
Finishing people off. for the love of decency, who are in the same state do to disease or non war related injury is no different , in my mind.
People who believe that Euthanasa for the terminally ill and far gone is a sin, must also believe it is a sin to mercy kill a soldier who is blown up but won't die..as well. Logically, they are the same thing. I wouldn't want you as a fellow soldier if I was blown up and my guts were hanging out.. that's for sure. I would aprreciate a bullet to the head in that situation , thankyou.
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Exquisite Corpse

Number of posts: 108 Age: 22 Location: In a deep vast dense pine forest Registration date: 2009-01-28 Points: 743
 | Subject: Re: Abortion Doctor killer says " Only God has the right to take away life". Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:27 pm | |
| Yeah, euthaniasa is quite a hard and complicated thing. I totally understand why someone would be in favor for it, when someone has clearly voiced their want to get assistance in ending their own life.
However, my opinion is that it is up to God to take a life. I would never want to nor be able to assist someone in dying, even in a "mercy-killing" way. Also, I believe that that person has a slight chance of getting healed by God; so I would not want to trump that. _________________ -Céline O'Neal (ELAN's wife)
"Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy and my burden is light." Matt. 11:28-30
"Let us first be as simple and well as Nature ourselves, dispel the clouds which hang over our brows, and take up a little life into our pores. " -Henry David Thoreau
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