^ hmm I just noticed I answered the wrong question, you didn't ask for carbon dating. Well here you go for big bang: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/273712/a_rational_cosmology_a_refutation_of_pg2.html?cat=58

I must point out that that is from a secular source^

http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/25376-big-bang-refuted.html

http://www.colorado.edu/philosophy/vstenger/Cosmo/bang.txt

i also might add that if you watch "Expelled" you'll notice most of the atheists professors don't buy into the big bang. (possibly all, but some of them didn't really state how they believe the world came into being) It's not even taught in schools anymore.

i beleive in micro-evolution, its obvious, that is why there are black people and white people and inbetween people. because they adapted to the sunlight of the environment, actually micro-evolution is in favor of god because it shows how well made we are.

i take everything in the bible literal aside from prophecy, because prophecy is written in code so the wicked have no understanding of it.

I believe that God designed all things to adapt into a synonymous balance. Indeed, melanin allowing for our skin to adapt to our exposure to ultra violet light (depending on our global location) is an example of this. Evidence of this balance is clearly displayed all around us.

Sure, people of science would stand and say, "this disproved a god, because it can be explained without one". However, it truly does neither disprove or prove a creator. Just because something is understood scientifically does not exclude the posibility of all that is having been sprung from the will of the supernatural.

On the ther topic, I am additionally going to agree with LV on his suggestion of the book "How To Read The Bible For All Its Worth". It is an extremely informative read, no doubt there. I learned a lot from it.

Intelligent design is undeniable.

Darwinism requires Faith.

Darwinian timelines and dating require Faith.

I prefer to keep my faith in things that at least have some evidence of being true. Unlike Darwinian evolution.. which has absolutely no evidence of being true.

Well said!

I have heard that theory. It's a bogus theory, which was attested to by darwin's family.

BTW, Darwinism is outdated and I do not believe in darwinistic evolution.

I remember when this article came out in a mainstream scientific magazine/journal, it definitely created quite a stir-

Ash, don't misuderstand me.

I.

Am.

Not.

A.

Darwinist.

Btw, I would like to read that article if you have it.

YOu believe in Macro-eovultion.. which is Darwinian evolution. Which is still the foundation of secular origin pseudo science.

Sure.. they had to finally admit that alot of hs hteories were outdated.. but Darwinism has not ceased to be the Reiligion of choice concerning origins. they just create new theories to try and fit the position tht they deem as like an immutable law.

one thing that i always tell atheists, science can explain how things work and what they do like gravity, but the question remains, WHY does gravity exist and work, why are there laws of the universe, if you get what i mean. with no god, everything can be random and without a reason. the universe is obviously one giant machine designed by a master creator, one who is very very brilliant beyond all comprehension. i can't study science without seeing gods fingerprints everywhere.

Wow, I wish I could give everybody here free copies of In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood. I can't recommend it enough. Best book outside of the Holy Bible I've ever purchased. It argues three things: the theory of organic evolution is invalid; the universe, the solar system, the earth, and life were recently created; and the earth has experienced a worldwide flood.

If anybody wants to ask any questions, I'll see if this book has anything on it

Oh, also check out creationwiki.org for a good time